New Media Chat Transcript for January 6, 2010

This is a transcript of our latest New Media Chat, held online on January 6, 2010.

douglaswelch: Welcome everyone to this week’s New Media Chat, brought to you by http://newmediainterchange.com and http://DouglasEWelch.com

douglaswelch: If you like, you can see my shining face on my webcam at http://DouglasEWelch.com/webcam

junglejenny: I see the blue glare in your specs too!

douglaswelch: The conversation continues 24/7 on the New Media Interchange Community site at http://community.newmediainterchange.com

douglaswelch: Welcome all!

douglaswelch: Ah yes. One of the disadvantages of using a built in web cam when you have glasses. The screen reflects badly in them

tracypattin: Always a problem I find

douglaswelch: There were a couple of interesting topics that came up in our pre-show discussion, so why don

douglaswelch: don’t we start there.

douglaswelch: One question I have for George is his experience with his newly purchased Kodak Zi8

junglejenny: What is it and why do you use it?

georgestarcher: It is a HD video camera.  About $180 from Amazon.  it can shot 720p at 30 frames, 720p and 60 frames.  and 1080p at 30 f

tracypattin: Better and as easy as the Flip?

douglaswelch: Amazon Link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002HOPUPC?tag=thewelchwritecom&camp=213381&creative=390973&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B002HOPUPC&adid=1E44YXB453Z2269W7N5Z&

georgestarcher: it uses SD memory cards. can take up to 32GB cards

georgestarcher: it is a competitor to the flip. the big plus is that it has a stereo mic in

junglejenny: how long can you record with 32gb?

douglaswelch: One feature I esepcially like is its external mic input so you coul duse it with a shotgun mic or wireless mics

georgestarcher: 8GB at 1080 will give you about an hour

junglejenny: Do you recommend 1080 and why?

georgestarcher: yup.  or you could use dual mono mics into a mono to stereo adapter to record two mics

douglaswelch: Do you have any example video up from the camera yet, George?

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georgestarcher: no not yet from me.   but there is other good examples.    http://www.youtube.com/user/StammyHD

georgestarcher: He really covers the camera well and has used it well

douglaswelch: Very cool. We should get a link to the video into the community site and perhaps the blog

junglejenny: How to make greek coffee?

georgestarcher: here is a clickable link http://bit.ly/8UQAzR

douglaswelch: I see some sample footage listed in the sidebar of his page. Look for Kodak Zi8.

douglaswelch: What are your plans for the camera, George? What types of things are you looking to record with it?

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georgestarcher: interviews.  make some video for some other folks, record some meetings for a professional association I am in

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georgestarcher: maybe product reviews etc

junglejenny: Is this HD?

georgestarcher: Is the camera hd?

junglejenny: yes

georgestarcher: or Stammy’s video

junglejenny: the kodak zi8

georgestarcher: yes as I mentioned it can record at 720 and 1080

douglaswelch: I think that having a portable, pocket camera to use is a great way to capture content that might otherwise

douglaswelch: slip by

douglaswelch: 720 and 1080 are the number of pixels in height of the captured videoa

junglejenny: 720 and 1080 is considered HD in techy terms?

douglaswelch: I assume it is 1080i interlaced and not 1080p  (Progressive)?

georgestarcher: no both are p

georgestarcher: which is better

douglaswelch: For every else, Progressive should produce a better picuture as it uses the entire frame for each frame grabbed

georgestarcher: But facebook will only accept 720 HD and youtube can accept 1080 HD

junglejenny: good to know

douglaswelch: unlike a TV or 1080i which grabs alternating field,s half the lines of the screen, each frame

douglaswelch: That is a nutshell description, but P is more like a computer monitor, I more like a TV

douglaswelch: Just as a little poll, what cameras do each of you have to capture video?

tracypattin: Flip

douglaswelch: In my case, I have a Kodak Digital Still Camera, an older Digital 8 camcorder and now my new Flip Mino HD, which does 720 HD video

georgestarcher: I have the kodak and my iphone.  I put my iphone in my owle bubo chassis

junglejenny: iphone too

douglaswelch: Ah yes, forgot my iPhone

georgestarcher: http://wantowle.com/

junglejenny: haven’t used my iphone yet

douglaswelch: I did stream som video of us playing Christmas Light Hero on New Year’s Eve with that

junglejenny: Do you like the quality?

douglaswelch: @Jen The uStream App allows recording and streaming of video on the iPhone

georgestarcher: the owle helps the quality a lot due to the lens on it

junglejenny: I need to get that application.

douglaswelch: Quality on the iPhone 3G is meh, 3GS is better, but I think it is more of a “hey I caught this video” then anything you would want

douglaswelch: to use on a regular basis

georgestarcher: and I can attach a light like the one I linked earlier to the owle

douglaswelch: uStream Broadcaster App – http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ustream-live-broadcaster/id319362690?mt=8

georgestarcher: A real good site with a great tour of the owle is http://www.handheldhollywood.com/

douglaswelch: uStream Recorder App – http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ustream-recorder-for-iphone-3g/id321595920?mt=8

douglaswelch: Cool George

douglaswelch: I saw, and posted to the Careers in New Media blog about some lenses that attach to the Flip for better video, too

junglejenny: I’ll check it out.

douglaswelch: Also, Qik.com streaming and recording apps for the iPhone

douglaswelch: Qik Live (streaming) – http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/qik-live/id343777949?mt=8

douglaswelch: Qik for 3Gs – http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/qik-for-3gs/id302767821?mt=8

junglejenny: same app?

douglaswelch: Different apps for different phones

douglaswelch: The 3gs has a better camera and “officially” support video recording. The 3G does not

junglejenny: it wouldn’t open the 3G

junglejenny: link, that is.

junglejenny: i got it

douglaswelch: You may need to select, cut and paste the link. make sure you get the whole thing

junglejenny: thanks, D

douglaswelch: All those links open in iTunes BTW

junglejenny: I see, that’s neat.

douglaswelch: I did 2 videos over Christmas with the new Flip Mino. Joe got a little close and shaky in his camera work, but you can get an idea of the quality of the unit under fairly low light sitiuations

douglaswelch: See http://douglaswelch.blip.tv

douglaswelch: I know that Tracy records her show with the original Flip and you can see that show over at

douglaswelch: http://newmediateatime.com

douglaswelch: It is nice to have so much video out there where you can get a really good idea of

tracypattin: thanks for the plug Doug! I’m trying to keep up here…

douglaswelch: the qualities of various cameras

junglejenny: your rockin, hey, I see automator on george’s youtube channel, what’s that?

georgestarcher: built in feature of Mac OSX

douglaswelch: Is that the Mac Automator George?

georgestarcher: for automating certain tasks

georgestarcher: that video shows me using it to set mp3 show tags for podcast production

douglaswelch: George has a lot of good, sometimes very techy, videos on various parts of audio and video production

georgestarcher: tedious and repetative tasks

junglejenny: does it tell the coffee maker to automatically make coffee

douglaswelch: He recently upload several of them to the NMI Community Site

douglaswelch: @jen, what you don’t have a coffee maker with a timer? Shame on you ! (LAUGH)

junglejenny: I need good tips on audio and video

douglaswelch: On a slightly different, yet New Media note…

douglaswelch: I was talking with Jennifer about some issues with her WordPress blog and it reminded me

junglejenny: oh yes

douglaswelch: to tell all of you….you MUST keep your WordPress software, and you WordPress

douglaswelch: plugins updated.

douglaswelch: Older versions can have bugs OR, even worse, be hacked.

junglejenny: can they be automatically update?

douglaswelch: If you see the little red badges next to your plugins menu or see the “Upgrade to WordPress X.X.X” message,

douglaswelch: try to get that done as soon as you can

georgestarcher: You can use the one click auto update but you have to click it

junglejenny: I did, thanks

douglaswelch: Yes, the autoupdate for both WordPress and plugins works very well

junglejenny: what about plugins I have that are not activated?  Should I delete them?

douglaswelch: It takes just a few minutes and one or two clicks to update them.

georgestarcher: i would remove them if you are not going to use them

douglaswelch: If you aren’t using a plugin, yes, get rid of them

georgestarcher: prevents chance of them being exploited

junglejenny: OK, if you say so.

douglaswelch: They just clutter up things and could provide a vector for hacking

douglaswelch: …like George said… (LAUGH)

junglejenny: I did get a video box up, BTW

douglaswelch: Good. Sorry I ran out of time that night

junglejenny: OMG, the time you gave me was more than expected

douglaswelch: Any questions out there? Just let them fly!

junglejenny: So I need Evo Cam software for my mac?

douglaswelch: Meeting with Susan (another of our New Media Mastermind members) on Monday to

georgestarcher: what do you want to do with it?

douglaswelch: set up her podcast and solve some issues for her

junglejenny: I have issues?

junglejenny: 🙂

douglaswelch: Evocam is a very specific use program

junglejenny: yes, start podcasting.

junglejenny: Do you use it?

douglaswelch: It is somewhat old school as it focuses on still picture web cams, but I also use it to make timelapse movies

georgestarcher: if you want to overlay on video and say send that to ustream use camtwist

douglaswelch: These days webcams are kinda pass. Most people do video, etc

douglaswelch: Ah, no for that you want a progam like CamTwist for the Mac or ManyCam for the PC

georgestarcher: http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=CamTwist

douglaswelch: Thes take any video feed, apply effects, text and graphics live  and then send it out to

douglaswelch: uStream and other video streaming sites

douglaswelch: uStream has some basic titling tools built in too

junglejenny: So I should just use ustream?

douglaswelch: Camtwist has greatly expanded its tools lately. It is almost a complete TV switching environment

douglaswelch: that allows for multiple cameras etc. Camtwist has more features than the built-in uStream one

georgestarcher: If you want to get hardcore into switched video etc there is boinxtv for mac

douglaswelch: Do you have a URL for that George?

junglejenny: interesting

georgestarcher: http://www.boinx.com/boinxtv/overview/

junglejenny: this is a cool site

douglaswelch: Thanks

douglaswelch: BTW, here is an Amazon link for the Flip Mino HD – http://bit.ly/6PKfib

douglaswelch: We were talking in the pre-show about doing Skype video interviews and Camtwist and these others

douglaswelch: could be used to combine your camera and the video from Skype into a Picture-in-Picture that you could stream out

junglejenny: Yes, very interested in interviewing people via internet and using it for my show

douglaswelch: You are getting fancy, but it should work

junglejenny: fancy is the key and staying ahead of the pack, right?

douglaswelch: On the low tech side, I saw Brian Shaler out of Phoenix simply place a laptop next to him on camera

douglaswelch: and then just shoot both he and screen with his camcorder to streamto uStream. Sometimes

douglaswelch: low-tech is what gets the job done.

douglaswelch: Didn’t look or sound bad either

junglejenny: interesting.

douglaswelch: I want to try something like that sometime and see how it works

junglejenny: let’s try it out!

douglaswelch: II can run the audio from the Skype call into my mixer and cross mic with my audio so it

douglaswelch: would sound pretty good too

junglejenny: You’re so smart

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douglaswelch: Maybe I should interview you Jen, using that method, for the NMI blog, That would create

douglaswelch: some content AND help us test out the various concepts

junglejenny: sounds like a plan

douglaswelch: Any questions Tracy?

junglejenny: I have one, are you still there?

junglejenny: Tracy?

douglaswelch: Someone tell her to stop wathcing Bones over there? (LAUGH)

tracypattin: Yes, I”m here

douglaswelch: Nah, must have lost her to other projects. I need to find a site that reads out the chat as

junglejenny: Must be a good episode

douglaswelch: audio for her, so she can listen while we chat

douglaswelch: I kid. She is probably neck deep in some project, like all of us

junglejenny: is there a program that coverts text into audio for chats?

tracypattin: I’m trying to keep up with all the heavy geek discussion! But I love it

douglaswelch: This is also why I post the transcripts after each chat

douglaswelch: Yes, there are several programs that do that

junglejenny: She has emerge, like a butterfly

douglaswelch: I don’t find it very enjoayable to listen too, but you can do it.

tracypattin: I LOVE butterflys and lady bugs

junglejenny: Ha!  I LOVE them too.  You should see my collection

tracypattin: Live or ….

douglaswelch: The built-in Apple speech tech will do it. Open TextEdit, past in the transript and select Edit, Speech, Start Speaking

junglejenny: Not live..

tracypattin: boo hoo

junglejenny: the conversion would be good for training I would think (the software)

douglaswelch: That reminds me, the Wild Things LA bird store on Woodman in Sherman Oaks/Studio City has a butterfly habit with living bugs

junglejenny: for REAL?

douglaswelch: Might be an interesting shoot for some video content

douglaswelch: Yes, for real

junglejenny: For sure!!!!

douglaswelch: I was over buying some birdfeeders the other day

tracypattin: perhaps a u-Stream event

douglaswelch: Don’t think they have WiFi, but I could use my iPhone, I guess 🙂

douglaswelch: Oh, before I forget, take a moment and drop the URL to your blogs, shows, videos, in the chat so that

tracypattin: We need to do a u-stream field trip event….that would be the best way to learn

douglaswelch: readers of the transcript can see what you are working on

junglejenny: Perhaps, I’ll be the host and we can interview the people there

tracypattin: and interview the butterflys

tracypattin: I’ll translate

douglaswelch: Ha ha

junglejenny: Ha, no the care takers, silly

tracypattin: Yea, I know

douglaswelch: My web with links to everything I do: http://DouglasEWelch.com

junglejenny: But they make have all the metamorphorsis stages, etc

junglejenny: MAY HAVE I mean.

douglaswelch: I saw chyrsalis and adults, so there must be some larvae in there somwhere

tracypattin: love the low tech talk!!

junglejenny: Good educational video, let’s do field trip

tracypattin: I’m in..

junglejenny: How about it George?

georgestarcher: LOL I am way over in TN

tracypattin: Ahhh, hop on a low tech plane…

junglejenny: OH……I’ll give you a shout out on the video for you

douglaswelch: Ha

georgestarcher: =)

douglaswelch: Ok, everyone paste your URLs in here everyone

douglaswelch: before we forget

junglejenny: http://junglejenny.org/

junglejenny: Do we like .ORG?

douglaswelch: Works for me

tracypattin: SizzleCaster.oom, NewMediaTeaTime.com, SizzleintheMiddle.com….just an internet whore…Oops sorry

douglaswelch: Ha ha

douglaswelch: Nah, you are like me with WAAAAAAAAAY to many interests

tracypattin: indeed

douglaswelch: You need TracyPattin.com

rosanne: Before I say Hi and Bye in one pass…

tracypattin: I have it…VO career website

junglejenny: Many interests is good as long as we stay focused on one or 2 seriously, right?

tracypattin: Bye Rosanne!

rosanne: I’ll post the URL for Written By Magazine – the magazine of the Writers Guild.

rosanne: http://wga.org/writtenby/writtenby.aspx

junglejenny: Hi Rosanne!

tracypattin: Yes, the focus issue is front and center

rosanne: The last two issues had lots ot do with Internet Freedom and internet writing.

douglaswelch: I find that I need a holding place for each interest as they don’t overlap much

douglaswelch: I then use those to capture whatever comes my way. I think once you have a place to

tracypattin: That would be a great topic for New Media Tea Time when you re-guest…

douglaswelch: put things, you are more likely to capture stuff

douglaswelch: Yes, we touched on that briefly when we talked about WordPress.com vs. WordPress.org

tracypattin: Good plan

douglaswelch: The fact that I have waaaay to many blogs, but each serves there individual purpose

douglaswelch: Rosanne, wasn’t there another WrittenBY story recently that had to do with the Internet and New Media?

tracypattin: I think you should create software that does that Doug.

douglaswelch: Create software for what? I missed the connection, sorry.

junglejenny: Ha!

junglejenny: There wasn’t one.

douglaswelch: BTW, the Consumer Electronics Show is happening this week in Las Vegas so there is a lot of

douglaswelch: New Media news coming out. I am highlighting the items I find interesting

junglejenny: good to know.  Thanks for highlighting

douglaswelch: in the New Media Tips Tiwtter feed (http://twiter.com/newmediatips and in my Google Shared items.

junglejenny: Field Trip in Jan or Feb?

tracypattin: Count me in..

georgestarcher: you misspelled twitter

douglaswelch: Arg

douglaswelch: Never fails

junglejenny: Thank you Doug for another great media chat!

tracypattin: Thanks Doug! Great as always

douglaswelch: Here is a cut and paste so no typos – http://twitter.com/newmediatips

junglejenny: Are we friends with george on fb?

douglaswelch: Google Reader Shared Items at http://www.google.com/reader/shared/douglas.welch

douglaswelch: I think I follow George on Facebook. He is also a fellow member of Friends in Tech (http://friendsintech.com), our small podcasting group

georgestarcher: http://www.facebook.com/georgestarcher?ref=profile

douglaswelch: Thank you all for coming tonight

junglejenny: I already sent a request, I’m quick like that

douglaswelch: Remember the conversation continues 24/7 on the New Media Interchange Community site at http://community.newmediainterchange.com

junglejenny: Thank you D!

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junglejenny: Have a wonderful evening everyone, Bye-Bye!

georgestarcher: Night

douglaswelch: Thanks everyone once again. Be well and we will see you in 2 weeks for our next chat

junglejenny: Can’t wait

douglaswelch: Tell your friends, family, co-workers, everyone who might be interested and have them join us!

douglaswelch: Tonight’s transcript will be posted in a little while on the blog and the community site.

tracypattin: Thanks Doug!

douglaswelch: Night all!

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